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Oh No Where did All the Hay Go?

Sunday morning Oct 19, 2014 The boys were not happy with their lack of hay situation and they let me know all about it, very loudly I might add….DSC02036

Don’t tell Jim but I broke into the “good stuff” in the barn.  They liked it so well they were begging for more when I got home from work!  So they got it!  🙂

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Going to the harness makers in the morning to get their modified Yankee Breeching straps and the new shorter breechings.  Hopefully we will get a chance to test it out before the rains return.

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Deer Patrol

Marshall is the sergeant in charge of fighting off the deer… or so he thinks.  He huffs and blows, he stomps his feet and it’s often a major stand-off until the deer give up and bounces out of sight.  Marshall wins, again!

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The other three are encouraging him to just “Go Git “Em, Marshall…. we’ve got your back all the way”….. and if you believe that……

Donkeys on Deer Patrol

 

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Enchanting Emerald Green

Log us in for another Terrific Teamdonk #1 Drive.  Good going Luc and Galahad!

Everyone is here you just have to look hard to find them

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The donkey boys are now locked in the back pasture for 10 days to rest the front pasture that was sprayed last evening with weed killer.  When I went to get them this morning it didn’t take them long to jump the creek and make their way thru the belly deep grass to get their halters on so we could go!  I sure hope no one is temped to overeat when I’m not looking!

We drove over six miles to enjoy a short visit with two different neighbors and we met another neighbor along the way giving us a chance to catch up with the latest neighborhood news.  We passed the dreaded cows that like to play chase causing a teamdonk runaway.  This time our timing was perfect, score two points for the donkeys as we successfully passed them going both directions without any excitement from Luc and Galahad or the cows and bottle-fed calves.

The prairie is blanketed in enchanting emerald green fall wheat fields with patches of bright yellow canola.  There is still snow on the mountain peaks and today it all happened under brilliant blue skies.  The temperature made it into the 70s  during our drive with a light breeze that had a cooling effect on my exposed skin.  I only sunburnt where I forgot to add sunscreen, imagine that… I will remember the tops of my legs next time out!

We are fifteen miles away from logging one thousand, it’s getting closer by the drive!  The rains are coming for a visit tomorrow so we’ll wait for the sunshine and go again.

 

Donkey Smarts

The Klene Pipe Structure Hay Feeder proved to be no challenge for Teamdonk!  The Mammoth Donkey boys, one in particular, figured out how to get around eating between the metal slates.

Merlin, discovered that once a new bale is set all he has to do is push on it to roll it across the feeder.  He is tall enough that he can push between the slates and also over the top of the gravity sides and he has enough power to get the job done.  Once he has it rolled across the feeder the sides change position.  With the bale against the north side it stands straight up.  Meanwhile the other side lays flat enough the boys can reach in and pull hay out over the top of the south side.  Being the naughty donkeys they can be they can throw the outside of the bale on the ground and just munch on the yummy core.

We came up with a number of ways to fix this situation.  What worked great was to tie the top of the two gravity sides together with the twine from the new bale.  That held the hay in place and they could NOT drop a side down.  Rolling it is no longer an option for Merlin!

Like I always say … “Just gotta be smarter than the donk!”

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Merlin at the feeder with the  panels tied together at the top on day two of the round bale.  Click on the photo to make it full size.

Teamdonk’s Feeding Philosophy

It’s important to think about what we feed our donkeys. What goes into the inside will certainly show up on the outside. Since donkeys are prone to fat depots we need to be vigil about how much and what they consume.

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First, we need to remember where this species originated.   Originally they were found on the desert and did very well on sparse feed.  So forget the alfalfa and the high protein hays that are way to rich for a donkey.  Your best hay choice should be good clean grass hay that is available to them all the time.  You ask, “Will they over eat”?  They may at first if they are not used to having feed available all the time.  Donkeys love to play and if given the room they need any extra calories will soon be burned off.  If you feed by the flake  make sure there is hay in front of them at all times.  Remember the act of processing hay in the winter is what helps to keep them warm.  Some donkeys will eat more than they need so you do need to use your best judgement.  The sides of our new feeder will fold up and prevent them from pulling hay out to snack on.  When it’s dinner time, all I do is to let the sides back down so they have access to the hay.

There is a round bale in the pasture for Teamdonk almost year around.  Even in the spring and early summer when the grass is green they still go to the hay to fill up before browsing on the fresh pasture grasses.  No matter what time of the year it is they will consume what they need when they need it.  After all donkeys are browsing animals and need to eat small amounts regularly.  We notice our boys, eat, play, nap and later come back to eat repeating this process around the clock.   The round bales work very well and we recommend they be fed in some sort of a metal feeder.  We monitor their hay and check for signs of dust and mold and how the hay is holding up to inclement weather.  Having a roof over the hay has been a huge help.  Note: in the winter months with the cold and wet donkeys do need more hay, not grain, to keep warm.

Cinchchix hay net

 We have tried the hay nets with the larger spaces, at least 1 3/4 inches, and found they work very well. Feeding the bale with the net over it on the ground the donkeys can get a hoof through the netting and I did not like that so we moved the bale with the hay net to the round bale feeder.  If there is some hay they do not like the net prevents them from digging thru the bale to get to the better hay, that is the only down side that we found. 

Teamdonk has had amazing success with a feed program that was offered to me years ago. We no longer fight with the dry skin itches or sores, or cracked hooves that show up during the cold months, both of these conditions are now past history.  Colic has never been a problem for us either, knock on wood!  

Supplements

This is how the original tried and true recipe from Vicky Abbot for supplementing donkeys has evolved.

One cup of Standlee  Grass Hay Pellets per animal soaked in one cup of water for about 30 minutes before feeding.  After the hay pellets break down I have corn oil in a plastic condiment server and I squirt a small amount of oil over the hay pellets.  I add a half to a whole chopped apple, depending on the size of the apple to each of the buckets.  Then one five inch x one inch carrot, chopped into coin size pieces again for each feed bucket.

Mix these ingredients together and add to the soaked hay pellets with oil, the apple and the carrot.

1 oz dry molasses

1 heaping Tablespoon of Magnesium Oxide

2 ounces of a foal milk replacer, I use Purina’s Mare’s Match but Unimilk or Grade A are also good.

1/4 teaspoon of loose mineral salt

Add this to the mixture and top with 1 cup of LMF Low Non-Structural Carbohydrate Complete Vitamin and Mineral feed.  I only use a small amount of what is recommended for horses and recommend feeding donkeys a low impact supplement such as Sho-Glo which is easier to obtain than the LMF in many parts of the country.  I like a supplement that contains Sel-Plex which is an Organic Selenium that is more easily absorbed than  a man made Selenium so I do watch for that feature.

Stir it all together and you’ll have donkeys talking to you before you can get it out the door to them!

Most of these products can be found at your local feed store.  The Magnesium Oxide and the dry Molasses come in large quantities and will need to be stored in plastic containers with lids.  

When you first introduce any changes to a feeding program it is recommended to go slowly.  Simply cut back the soaked hay and add only a small amount to the product you now feed.  Over time slowly decrease what you are currently feeding and increase the hay mash.  It may take your donkey about a month to eat every bit and lick the bucket clean.  Once they start they’ll be asking for it daily.

The Whys… These nutrients together will increase a donkey’s energy level, which will increase his metabolism, a win/win situation!

Magnesium Oxide helps to reduce the neck crests and fat pockets donkey naturally get. Magnesium is also known to play an important part in reducing equine obesity, and can lessen the risk of laminitis in animals prone to it during periods of strong spring grass growth. Magnesium plays an important part in nerve and muscle function, and animals deficient in this important element can show signs of nervousness, wariness, excitability, and muscle tremors. A deficient horse (donkey) is likely to have a poor tolerance to work and its muscles will tie up quite quickly, donkeys don’t seem to have this problem.  The Magnesium Oxide is very bland tasting so donkeys have no problem eating it.

Dry Molasses (not wet) is used as a binder to keep the dust down and for increased palatability in many horse feeds.  I don’t really feel this is an essential part of the recipe.  Many are worried about the sugars in dry molasses, really there is not enough in a daily dose to do any harm.  By mixing all the ingredients into a hay mash there is no dust anyway.  I think it must taste good to them and that is really the only reason I still have it in the feed program.

The foal milk replacer is a good subsidy to aid in the replacement of the lower calcium and phosphorous levels in the grass hay. It is an easily digestible source of the protein Keratin which is needed for hoof growth and benefits bones, teeth, hair and skin.  Purina’s Foal Lac is loaded with a great assortment of nutrients that are very beneficial.

A loose salt mixture with a good variety of free-choice minerals is important for them to have access to even if you feed only pasture or hay. My current choice for salt is American Stockman Se-30 Trace Mineralized Salt with Selenium.  Our area is deficient in Selenium.  This product also contains Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Iodine and Cobalt.  It’s very important for our donkey friends to have access to these nutrients at least once a day in loose form along with plenty of clean water.  I hang salt buckets near their water daily especially on days when I can keep the salt dry.  Your donkeys will thank you for both.  Salt and Mineral blocks don’t work as well but are better than not feeding anything at all.

 Clean water that is warmed in the winter is a must, they actually will drink more when it is cold which keeps everything on the inside working smoothly without colic and compaction problems. 

“Feed Flax” my farrier recommended.  We were fighting dry cracking hooves, white line disease and other hoof ailments. After doing a great deal of internet research and a recommendation from my local feed store friends I decided to try it.  Twice a week I grind an ounce of seeds for each of the feed buckets.   

Buy flax seed/linseed from your local health food or feed store or anywhere you can purchase the whole seed. Store your seeds in a cool dark place and they will last a long time. Using a coffee bean grinder, pulverize the seeds into a powder. Chop up only what you need as the powder will go bad very quickly. The reason you need to crush the seed is that they are so small the seeds will pass thru the system undigested.  This  is a photo of feed grade flax that I get from my local livestock feed dealer.

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Flax seed has a high concentration of Omega 3 and Omega 6 fatty acids, that animals cannot produce in their bodies and are an essential part of the diet.  Benefits include a nice shiny coat and healthy skin, strong resultant hooves; it helps to prevent compaction and is a great sand colic prevention.  One of the benefits I find is that the little beggars’ lice and the cockleburs easily brush out during the fall and winter months.

Flax nutritional values: 22-26% crude protein, 18 MJDE/kg, 7% fiber, 31% oil, mild laxative, antioxidants, Omega 3 fatty acids, anti-viral, anti-fungal and anti-bacterial, decreases recovery time from strenuous exercise if mash is fed after exercise, improves hoof condition, relieve arthritic and inflammatory pain, keeps less desirable saturated fats mobile in the blood stream, increases oxygen uptake to the cells, improved skin and coat condition, valuable source of energy. Flax is great to feed during the cold months; mash fed twice per week or during times of stress helps to prevents weight loss. Note: the protein level in flax seed is scarie high for a donkey and that is the reason behind feeding only 1 to 1 ½ ounces of seeds per animal no more than twice a week with several days in between the feedings.  My thoughts have always been less is best with flax, but it is worth the effort.

The down side to feeding flax is again not to overfeed it.  You don’t want to plug up the liver is what I have been told.  Do not use add flaxseed (linseed) oil to their diet, it is not the same as flax seed and does not replace it. 

Did you notice that I am not feeding corn? Donkeys do not process corn well so it is not in my program.  The other product that I do not feed very often are plain or rolled oats.  When I want to give the boys a treat for coming into their pen I will feed a cup of oats mixed with a cup of Standlee hay pellets.  It makes a nice treat for them and I appreciate when they come to me rather than me going to to catch someone.  

There you have it all of the Teamdonk feeding secrets.  I am feeding four Mammoth Donkeys between 14 and 15 hands and under a thousand pounds at less than $2.20 each per day.  Take a look at their coats in any of my photos to see that hopefully they are healthy donkeys from the inside out!

So much to see with harvest and planting all going on at the same time

Klene Hay Feeder 2/8/2014

After six days clean dry hay remains in the Klene Pipe Structure H-8 feeder, the weather conditions are telling us to feed a new bale today as it is going to get nasty again soon. 

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Jim is able to place a round bale from either the top or the bottom of the feeder.  With John Deere’s help the bale slides right into the feeder over top of the remaining hay.

The new bales slides right in

The only thing left to do is to take the bale strings off, close the gate and turn the Teamdonk gang loose.  Feeding is done for another week!

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Klene Feeder, Day Four

First let’s go back in time and remember how it looked before the Klene Hay Feeder!  This was day two on a 750 pound round bale.  Look at the waste and the mess!  Even more important this feeder has become very dangerous, even for calm quiet donkeys that are careful not to hurt themselves. It had served it’s purpose and what we wanted was a better replacement.

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With four mammoth donkeys working on all sides and one going over the top of the grills, there is still not much waste, even on day four.

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This was a four foot round bale and for perspective this is one of our 56 inch mammoth donkeys, Okay Sir Galahad.  We have had periods of snow the past four days but the bale remains nice and dry!

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The temperatures have been down to minus 18 at night with single digits during the day so the boys are eating to stay warm.  It’s not going to take them long to finish off this round bale, probably just another day.  Next week the Pacific Northwest forecast is calling for a warm up with rain and wind, again we expect the hay to stay mostly dry.  It is so nice to have it off the wet ground!, that is a huge bonus!

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Thanks Klene Pipe Structures for a quality product that fits the needs of feeding livestock!  Check out the other great products at www.KlenePipe.com or just call for a brochure 1-800-876-9721 tell them Teamdonk in Idaho sent you!

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Klene Pipe Feeder

Our Klene Pipe Feeder, a H-8 for horses, arrived looking like this.  Delivered by a local trucking company, it came right out of the truck, with no damage and set exactly where Jim needed it.

1/22/14 The feeder arrives

This was a one man operation from start to finish.  Would have been great to have a second guy around to help.  But it is do-able!

It went together the first day in just a few hours, leaving Jim plenty of time to go skiing.

The second day was gathering materials and getting the big boards up for the roof, that in it’s self was a huge project for one guy.  This photo is after the second day.

Extra large roof for shade and protection from the elements.

Drilling, getting the bolts installed and starting on the roof was the next day’s project.  The final braces, a total of 11, the sheeting and finally the tin went on the fourth day.

A round bale was loaded on the front of the tractor, and the feeder was behind when it went to the pasture.  Once set it was easy to place the bale inside.  Jim located it on a little bit of a slope and right in front of a large picture window so even at night we can see who is at the feeder.

The fun began when the boys were turned loose, round and round the feeder they went.  Finally one of them bumped it and we had four mammoth donkeys in an all out panicked run.   They got as far as their pasture shelter and decided to walk back.

10x12 roof, gives them a good 3 1/2 feet overhang on each side

Marshall was the first to reach in and grab a mouthful of hay.  The other three started pulling it out of his mouth… worked for them!  Marshall started reaching into the hay, pulling out a chuck, dropping it to the ground to feed his buddies!  The other three were scoring the easy way!  They had it figured out within the first hour.

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Overnight we received three inches of snow with winds strong enough to blow  it through the breezeway of the old barn. What was left of the old bale was still in the round bale feeder and it was packed with snow. The new bale, in the Klene feeder, was free of snow and the boys were happily munching away.

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As the boys devour the hay the gravity controlled grills will follow the hay down to the wooden base.  What a great design.  The sides can also be brought back up to block them from over eating and let down when it is chow time.  Great concept, quality materials, we are thrilled with the last feeder we will ever have to invest in! The hay stays off the ground, and with the larger roof, I can see them using this as summer shade also. 

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